Loot Penalty? (repeating zones) - Guild Wars Forums

PallyKali · Apr 28, 2010, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Is there a loot penalty for repeating the same zone over and over again?

If so, what are the mechanics for it? For example, how many times do you have to repeat a zone before the loot penalty comes into play? Will logging out and back in reset it? How much time must pass for it to reset? How do players get around it while farming? Does the loot penalty just reduce the frequency of drops or the rarity? Or both? Is the loot penalty additive so that the more you successively repeat the zone the less and less loot you will get? Or is there a cap on how much you can be penalized?

Thanks for your time.

Shayne Hawke · Apr 29, 2010, 12:16 AM // 00:16

I believe this was the case a long time ago, but not anymore.

*Darcy* · Apr 29, 2010, 01:13 AM // 01:13

There is no penalty for repeatedly farming the same area. Some players believe there is, no matter how many times ANet says "not anymore". It is simply your luck. Items to drop are randomly generated upon entry to an area, then assigned upon death of foe.

Here are links to wiki pages on Farming and Loot Scaling and to the discussion of the update that changed how drops are handled.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Farming
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Loot_scaling
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arena..._20_April_2007

Terrible Surgeon · Apr 29, 2010, 01:32 AM // 01:32

I was actually testing this "rezoning=loot penalty" idea one day 2 weeks ago for fun to see what would happen.

Area Tested=ToPK

Control=Farm and rezone back to ToPK continuously until 1 hour was amassed farming.

Variable1=Farm ToPK area rezoning back to ToPK until ecto/s drop upon which i logged off and logged back in and then proceeded to farm again. This continued until 1 hour of farming was amassed.

Variable2=Farm ToPK area then rezone back to another outpost other than ToPK after having an ecto drop. Then map back to ToPK to continue farming. This was done until 1 hour was amassed farming.

After spending an hour farming [3 hours total] using the different rezone methods i listed i actually found that nothing really made the loot dropped any better or any worse. Im convinced its all luck.

jazilla · Apr 29, 2010, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon

I was actually testing this "rezoning=loot penalty" idea one day 2 weeks ago for fun to see what would happen.

Area Tested=ToPK

Control=Farm and rezone back to ToPK continuously until 1 hour was amassed farming.

Variable1=Farm ToPK area rezoning back to ToPK until ecto/s drop upon which i logged off and logged back in and then proceeded to farm again. This continued until 1 hour of farming was amassed.

Variable2=Farm ToPK area then rezone back to another outpost other than ToPK after having an ecto drop. Then map back to ToPK to continue farming. This was done until 1 hour was amassed farming.

After spending an hour farming [3 hours total] using the different rezone methods i listed i actually found that nothing really made the loot dropped any better or any worse. Im convinced its all luck.

so what were your findings?

FoxBat · Apr 29, 2010, 01:49 AM // 01:49

Everyone who believes in this theory states that it takes more than a zone to clear your antifarm.

Anyway this is still a contested issue, I don't think it can be resolved here in Q&A.

Zacchius · Apr 29, 2010, 02:30 AM // 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon

After spending an hour farming [3 hours total] using the different rezone methods i listed i actually found that nothing really made the loot dropped any better or any worse. Im convinced its all luck.

so what were your findings?

His findings are right there.

*Darcy* · Apr 29, 2010, 03:45 AM // 03:45

@FoxBat - before the 2007 change, you did need to zone twice to clear your flags. The anti-farming system was an attempt to prevent bot farming. You would be surprised (or maybe not) to learn how many players are completely unaware of the change brought about by the update.

Apr 28, 2010, 10:52 PM // 22:52	#1
PallyKali Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Guild: Elite Death Society Profession: W/Mo	Loot Penalty? (repeating zones) Is there a loot penalty for repeating the same zone over and over again? If so, what are the mechanics for it? For example, how many times do you have to repeat a zone before the loot penalty comes into play? Will logging out and back in reset it? How much time must pass for it to reset? How do players get around it while farming? Does the loot penalty just reduce the frequency of drops or the rarity? Or both? Is the loot penalty additive so that the more you successively repeat the zone the less and less loot you will get? Or is there a cap on how much you can be penalized? Thanks for your time. Last edited by PallyKali; Apr 28, 2010 at 10:56 PM // 22:56..

Apr 29, 2010, 01:13 AM // 01:13	#3
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	There is no penalty for repeatedly farming the same area. Some players believe there is, no matter how many times ANet says "not anymore". It is simply your luck. Items to drop are randomly generated upon entry to an area, then assigned upon death of foe. Here are links to wiki pages on Farming and Loot Scaling and to the discussion of the update that changed how drops are handled. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Farming http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Loot_scaling http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arena..._20_April_2007 __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also) Last edited by Darcy; Apr 29, 2010 at 01:17 AM // 01:17..

Apr 29, 2010, 03:45 AM // 03:45	#8
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	@FoxBat - before the 2007 change, you did need to zone twice to clear your flags. The anti-farming system was an attempt to prevent bot farming. You would be surprised (or maybe not) to learn how many players are completely unaware of the change brought about by the update. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Apr 29, 2010, 12:16 AM // 00:16	#2
Shayne Hawke Departed from Tyria Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Clan Dethryche [dth] Profession: R/	I believe this was the case a long time ago, but not anymore.

Apr 29, 2010, 01:32 AM // 01:32	#4
Terrible Surgeon Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2009 Guild: hopper Profession: A/	I was actually testing this "rezoning=loot penalty" idea one day 2 weeks ago for fun to see what would happen. Area Tested=ToPK Control=Farm and rezone back to ToPK continuously until 1 hour was amassed farming. Variable1=Farm ToPK area rezoning back to ToPK until ecto/s drop upon which i logged off and logged back in and then proceeded to farm again. This continued until 1 hour of farming was amassed. Variable2=Farm ToPK area then rezone back to another outpost other than ToPK after having an ecto drop. Then map back to ToPK to continue farming. This was done until 1 hour was amassed farming. After spending an hour farming [3 hours total] using the different rezone methods i listed i actually found that nothing really made the loot dropped any better or any worse. Im convinced its all luck.

Apr 29, 2010, 01:49 AM // 01:49	#6
FoxBat Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: Mo/Me	Everyone who believes in this theory states that it takes more than a zone to clear your antifarm. Anyway this is still a contested issue, I don't think it can be resolved here in Q&A.